It feels very strange to say this, but this is one of the greatest conversations I've had to date. On and off podcast. I find that I can connect with most people on at least one thing, but it's very rare that I feel completely eye to eye on life. I'm sure if we kept digging that we'd find disagreements, but I walked away feeling very understood. Liz and I talk about making the move to LA, being on tour with Demi Lovato, and a few of her life philosophies. Great talk!